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How Will Giants Secondary Be Without Will Hill and Jayron Hosley?

Monday, June 16th, 2014

This post comes from Justin Becker of FantasyFootballOverdose.com. You can follow him on Twitter @NFLRankings or the Fantasy Football Overdose Google+ Page, and for more 2014 Fantasy Football Projections visit Fantasy Football Overdose.

The New York Giants prepared for situations like this. Thanks to a solid showing during the early stages of the 2014 NFL free agency period, New York figures to be able to withstand some key losses in their secondary.

The biggest is easily safety Will Hill, who was slapped with yet another suspension this off-season and quickly cut thereafter by Big Blue. The G-Men simply grew tired of Hill’s lack of dedication and discipline.

Some may count the cutting of Hill (who signed with an arena football team) as a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, but with his third suspension in as many years in the NFL, a decision had to be made.

While it may have been the right call from a character perspective, the Giants still dropped an elite safety in an area of their team that struggled at times a year ago. In other words, at least on the surface, the Giants needed Hill pretty badly in 2013 just to come off as serviceable at times. Losing him altogether would at the very least put them at risk of regressing when it comes to their pass defense.

Again, that’s just on paper. The Giants did still make some solid moves on the defensive side of the football in free agency, and appear to have the depth in place to make up for the loss of Hill. Stevie Brown is fully expected to man the free safety spot, with Antrel Rolle cemented in at the strong safety spot.

On paper, those are two very talented safeties that individually shouldn’t hurt the Giants. If New York’s pass rush can pick back up to a respectable level (just 34 sacks a year ago), their new safety duo should be plenty good enough to consistently get the job done.

It’s not like going to Stevie Brown is a bad thing. It’s true that he’ll need to prove himself as he comes off a torn ACL that robbed him of the entire 2013 season, but he was an elite ball hawk safety in 2012, picking off eight passes and doing a solid job as a last resort protector with 76 total tackles.

Hill offered a little more balance and stability, as well as youth, but Brown is nothing to shrug off. Provided he can return to full health and that 2012 form, the Giants should be quite solid at the free safety spot still.

Strong safety with Rolle would be the mild concern, as he hasn’t always been the most consistent performer. With that said, he’s coming off a very productive 2013 season and overall has lived up to the hype since signing a big deal back in 2010. In fact, with Rolle entering a contract season at 31 years old, he’ll have every reason to be on top of his game.

With the G-Men apparently surviving the release of Will Hill with a solid safety duo, their only other real question in the secondary is with cornerback Jayron Hosley.

Like Hill, Hosley was served a suspension to start the 2014 season and could be on the roster bubble. He’s slated to sit out the first four games of the 2014 NFL season and despite solid talent, doesn’t appear to really be relied on for big production this year.

In other words, it may not really matter what happens to him. The Giants could elect to give him another shot and slide him into the rotation when he’s active for their fifth game of 2014, but even if they don’t, it looks like they made the right moves to equip them with enough depth to withstand an ineffective or completely absent Hosley.

New York already had a solid corner on the rise with Prince Amukamara, but didn’t leave their secondary to chance this season, as they paid top dollar for former Denver Broncos cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, while also snagging Walter Thurmond III and retaining solid depth corner, Trumaine McBride.

The signing of DRC was massive, vaulting him up to New York’s #1 corner slot, with Amukamara likely starting on the opposite side. That puts Thurmond, a guy the Giants deem as “special”, who was somewhat hidden in Seattle behind would-be superior talents in Richard Sherman and Brandon Browner.

Thurmond appears to have the physicality and tools to even start ahead of Amukamara if need be, but would truly be an elite presence as a nickel corner. With these three corners locking up the top three spots, a still solid McBride gets pushed to the fourth spot, leaving the disappointing Hosley to battle with Zackary Bowman for the fifth spot.

Hosley is still talented enough to return and put pressure on McBride for the fourth spot, but is clearly no longer being depended on. Not only had he been an arguable disappointment through his first two seasons, but his suspension obviously casts doubt on how much the G-Men can trust him going forward, as well.

The Giants appear to have covered their bases quite well in every way when it comes to their secondary. The funny part is they worked hard to address this area during the off-season and now it’s the least of their worries. Instead, they’ll have to hope they can ignite their pass-rush, as well as get better against the run. If they can’t do one or both, their new, impressive secondary may struggle, regardless of how well it is constructed.

Traveling for college football games

Wednesday, October 16th, 2013

I don’t know how much fun watching the Giants will be, but since I happen to be in Tallahassee there will be some good FSU games coming up. Normally I’d say that the problem with college football is that too many games are non-competitive – the last one I saw was FSU vs. Maryland. The Terps were down 21 zip at the half, which is when I left. I think it was 63 zip by the end. Anyhow, the Giants aren’t always competitive either and they are on the receiving end so let’s talk about watching college football, shall we?

Grab your fan paraphernalia, maybe some LSU luggage, and hit the road. I know in Tallahassee, tailgaters arrive Thursday night – you need to be a booster to park on campus I think. Friday night is the downtown get down – free music and a street party atmosphere. They sell food and clothes (mostly for women). Before the Maryland game they had some famous country music guy. At least they said he was famous.

Then you have the game on Saturday and I suppose a victory party follows on Saturday night. Then you go home and watch the New York football Giants play like turds I guess.

So anyway, what are your experiences traveling for football games? I know I met some brothers in Hawaii who go somewhere warm every year to watch the Super Bowl. Of course that year in Hawaii, one brother left the bar we were watching the game in at halftime. Seems he had a date with a working girl. Couldn’t schedule that for after the Super Bowl. That Super Bowl I watched in Hawaii seems like a lifetime ago – the Giants won that Superbowl. Now the best thing we can win is an early draft pick.

Eli Manning: the women’s choice

Monday, August 19th, 2013

Instead of talking about how bad the Giants looked against the Colts and how Andrew Luck was clearly the best player on the field, let’s smile a little.

Women for Eli Manning from Alison Haislip

Way to spot that foul refs: Trent Williams vs. Michael Boley

Monday, October 22nd, 2012

The ref watched Trent Williams of the Redskins stick his finger into Boley’s facemask. And he watched Boley hit back. And he penalized only Boley. Great to have the old refs back.

New York City attractions & reasons to visit

Thursday, October 11th, 2012

Here are some ideas for New York City breaks. Because if you go with your family, you’ll have to do more than just see the Giants. In fact, you’ll want to do more than just see the Giants no matter what.

Their 5 reasons to visit NYC are:

    Fabulous Shopping
    Great Bars, Restaurants and Nightlife
    Broadway Theater
    World Class Museums and Galleries
    Diverse Neighborhoods

All of these are great reasons to visit New York. Let me offer a little tip on each of these 5 things. For shopping, one department store is great for New Yorkers and for tourists: Century 21, right near the old World Trade Center. I’ve bought everything from watches to shoes to sports jackets at this place, always steeply discounted. When I go to New York around Christmas time, that’s where I go to buy presents.

For bars, I say find the ones that do great music. I have fond memories of the 55 Bar & Grill where I used to see Sweet Georgia Brown. Great blues there most of the time. And for a more expensive and upscale experience, the Iridium. I saw Les Paul there – just classic.

Broadway – Actually my least favorite reason as I’ve never felt like shelling out the big bucks for a Broadway show. Try to plan well in advance and figure how to get discount tickets.

Museums – No doubt about it. So many great ones in NYC and you can’t see them all. Heck, you can’t even see all of the MET, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, but you sure can see a lot of art there.

Neighborhoods – Heck yeah. So many famous ones. The most overlooked would be Harlem. There’s lots to do there and I laugh at how it seems the whole world is scared of Harlem.

And don’t forget to leave Manhattan once in a while. The Bronx Zoo would be a wonderful excuse.

Giants win against Browns despite poor officiating

Monday, October 8th, 2012

If the replacement refs had been in the game for that non-call on the obvious pass interference on Cruz that resulted in a Browns interception, the media would be all over it. Somehow the regular refs get a pass even though they are horrendous. What’s up with that?

Anyhow, the Giants offense explodes and Beatty looks real good in there at tackle which is a beautiful thing. What’s not beautiful is the Giants defense. We figured the injuries in the secondary would be an issue but where is the defensive line pressure?

Taiwanese videos on NFL refs and NHL lockout

Thursday, September 27th, 2012

Something different and a bit funny.

Here’s one for the NHL.

Giants show some good things, some bad vs. Chicago

Saturday, August 25th, 2012

The Giants first team looked decent, but the backup offensive linemen looked bad enough to erase any joy I could have gotten from the first half. It’s hard to say who was worse, Carr or the offensive linemen behind him.

But Eli had a strong game and it just got harder to cut Ramses Barden so that makes things interesting at wide receiver. Further complicating things ay wide receiver: David Douglas. He looked good returning punts and the giants do, in fact, need someone back there returning punts. But there’s no room for Hixon, Barden, and Douglas so one of them has to go…

Giants football is back?

Wednesday, January 11th, 2012

Funny how the Giants were so unfun to watch when they couldn’t run the ball or play defense. As things seem to be changing the past couple weeks, I’m having fun being a Giants fan again.

Good luck Steve Smith

Thursday, August 11th, 2011

though not against your former team. Seeing your team’s most reliable wide receiver go to a division rival is pretty tough but I have nothing bad to say about Steve Smith – the guy was an absolute bargain for us and he never held out or got whiney like Osi or anything like that even when he was playing real cheap on his rookie contract and after catching over 100 passes in a year.

Anyway, go kill Dallas.